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Joomla and Email Newsletters

Posted on Jun 16, 2006
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Over the last few weeks I have been trying to come up with a reliable solution for sending out the Compass email newsletter. www.aweber.com with a technique I have developed to integrate it into user registration.

The three biggest problems in trying to implement an email newsletter are:

  • A reliable and robust solution capable of handling thousands of emails
  • Begin able to send these emails through your host
  • Integration between the user registration database and the email

It doesn't seem that www.aweber.com. It addresses both of the first issues and I have implemented an easy technique to deal with the third.

Sometime next week I will do a full comparision of current Joomla email solutions and I'll outline how I integrated aweber into Joomla.



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Paul Penny said:

I have also been looking at various Joomla email systems. I'll look forward to your reviews.
June 16, 2006

Brian Teeman said:

I'd be interested to hear what problems you found with the exisiting joomla solutions such as yanc, letterman etc.



I've implemented letterman on a few sites and to date have had no problems. (I have made a few customisations to the code to suit some specific issues but they dont effect the function)
June 18, 2006

Urano said:

I want to see how you resolve it the 3er point.
June 18, 2006 | url

admin said:

There are a few major issues when using any of the current Joomla email newsletters.



The first is sending out the emails. Most webmasters are on hosts that will severly cap their emails, you are lucky if you can get 2000-300 an hour. Once you get more than that, you need a dedicated server which generally won't have these caps. BUT, then you get into real perfomance issues. When you send out an email to a few thousand, its goind to impair your server. If you are using it to run your business, say ecommerce, then you end up needing TWO dedicated servers, and be able to maintain them. This path is something that is not good for someone that just wants to run a business online.



The second is that there is no integration with the user database. If you are having people register, say when they purchase, or whatever, you might well want to have these users be entered into an email list. Trouble is, if you do an import, that gets them into the email list, but if they unsubscribe, they could easily get reimported when you do your next "sync". This puts the webmaster in significant danger of violating the CAN-SPAM act. Essentially, there is no way to get them off the user db when they unsubscribe.



There are a few other key features like RSS and autoresponders that are missing.



I think at the moment, if you want to use email to market, you have to go with an external, hosted solution, Aweber, Constant Contact, Sparklist, Jangomail etc.



In the next few days I will have a more complete article
June 18, 2006

Mosey said:

Hi smilies/smiley.gif I've found I might also have to look into a newsletter solution for a site I'm working on in the near future, so will also be anticipating your article on the comparison. It seems Letterman or Yanc may be the best solutions so far but only suitable for small-medium sized sites.
June 19, 2006 | url

FreshCMS said:

In the Key Problem sections do you mean 2000-3000 an hour or 200-300 an hour?
June 19, 2006

admin said:

200-300 per hour, thanks smilies/wink.gif
June 19, 2006

Norman said:

Aweber is not the only one.



I went with them first, but changed to getresponse.com.

They have some more awesome features like "masking" the services domain!

Totally trust-building!

Meaning you will not have links like this in your emails:

http://www.aweber.com/897qw9h9837497/

but

http://yourdomain.com/897qw9h9837497/



Doesn't look like a third-party autoresponder-service!

That is for all links in your communication, like unsubscrivbe-links etc...!



Cheers,

Norman
June 20, 2006 | url

Patrick Hawkins said:

I've been fighting with Yanc for almost three years. I've looked at other newsletter components (Letterman, Anjel, etc.), and they all have their issues. Yes, they may work, but they're not well integrated or robust with features. And, while an external hosted solution may certainly be a solution, you're faced with the same problems of user integration not to mention the price (not an option for my non-profit). I would be more than happy to cuogh up a few for a feature-rich functioning component though.
June 21, 2006 | url

markchau said:

I liked Letterman. Simple. Easy. I only send out about 300 a month. But my problem was the constant fight with registration-bots. They are killing me. I just fixed the phpbb bots, now I have to deal with the Letterman bots.
June 21, 2006

ben scott said:

i have been using moslistmessenger myself for email newsletters quite successfully although its templating system lets it down a little

there is always http://www.campaignmonitor.com/ they also have a really good breakdown of how to do css driven emails, this sounds like type of things you are looking for
June 21, 2006

Graham Spice said:

http://forum.joomla.org/index....l#msg84048

http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,69001.msg360484.html#msg360484
June 23, 2006

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